half, the defit by half next year. all of which are impossible. every serious person who has looked at this, whether in a group or a study group or commission or whenever, knows that they -- there have to be revenue enhancements, taxes raed as well as spending cuts. the idea of just trying to do it with spending cuts alone is just irrational. >> democrats have not even produced a budget for 2012. >> the -- >> what's -- >> the case is there -- >> w where are thebers and where is the plan? it isight there -- >> where? >> look, the president, the dealings with joe biden senators and congressmen, is there. $400 billion i revenues, $2 trillion in cuts. that is 1/5, and republicans walked away, saying we can ct touch it.